Kelabit Wiki:Kick off meeting

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Where and When

Where

Right in this space, everyone can edit the page with their views / ideas.

When

Start xx Aug 2007
We will keep this forum open for a month or so to ensure all views are heard. Then it will be locked as our minutes of meeting.

Participants

Please add your name if you are participating in this meeting, even if you're not commenting This is an open invitation to all Kelabits.

  1. SRajaDita 12:21, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Pre-Read

Check out the test site to see what this project is all about. We have the tool, now are there any workers?

Meeting Objectives

  1. Gauge interest and commitment to carry the project through
  2. Identify resources - IT/Moderators/Content/Authorities
  3. Agreement on policies - open or restricted, Kelabit only or multilingual?
  4. Action plan going forward

Agenda

Interest and Commitment

So this doesn't end up being someone's personal pet project that will die an early death, lets have a show of hands, by adding your name to this list, separated by a comma. TIP: Typing ~~~~ signs your name (with date).

  • Do you think this project is a good idea? Bear in mind there is already an initiative by RURUM education committee (Sina Raben et al) along these lines with the help of some language experts.
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,
  • Would you contribute to the project?
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,
  • The Kelabit Wiki will be modeled on the global Main. Are you already familiar with Wikipedia? If not, are you willing to learn?
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,

Resources

We'll need volunteers to help make this happen as a community project. Please sign up for any of these roles, or suggest any other ways you can help.

  • There is a built-in current events 'portal' Would you like to contribute news items?
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,
  • Can you help with coding templates, and customisation? Or formatting content provided by those that don't have time to check spelling, let alone count how many stars they need to indent a bullet point?
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,
  • There is already a large amount of words captured in other Kelabit-English dictionary like the online dictionary at Kelabit Net [1] from Mathew Amster's, and Robert Blust's work . The OKC also has a wealth of words in Kelabit in their multitude of spellings (See sample) from our years of chatting there since April 2004. So, could you help in putting these into the Kelabit Wiki as a start?
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,
  • Would you like to be a moderator?
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,
  • Would you like to be involved in setting policies and guidelines for the Kelabit Wiki?

(See [[Wikipedia:List_of_guidelines|Wikipedia Guidelines]

    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,
  • Can you help spread the word and gather support?
    • YES
    • NO
      • Name1,

Policies

Such a big word that.. what can we call these things that we need to agree upfront like.. Please add any items you feel we should get consensus on before we proceed.

  • Should we keep the forum restricted to bonafide Kelabits or registered users only or open to the WWW? Discuss.
    • I personally prefer to keep it restricted. Access to be tied to the user database of OKC [2] SRajaDita 12:21, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
  • Should we focus only on building an encyclopedia and leave the dictionary project to RURUM? Discuss.
    • Can someone get an update what RURUM is already doing? This project could possibly feed that work. SRajaDita 12:21, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
  • We are using the English version of the MediaWiki (the Wiki engine), and the menus you see on the left are fixed. The other option is to select Bahasa Malaysia. Discuss.
    • I would rather use English. The modern Malay words developed for all this new technology just sounds too foreign to me. I mean, is it me or does """Laman Utama""" not sound like a shopping mall to you? SRajaDita 12:21, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
  • Then there is the question of what language to use for the ""Categories"". This is a key thing for managing/indexing content in Wikis. The test site I've created so far uses English for both the content headings and categories. Just because I don't know half the Kelabit word to use. Like what is pronunciation in Kelabit for instance. Discuss.
    • I vote for English for the categories. Because it's not easily undone once you've made a mistake. I think it'll get messy especially as we spell words in various ways. SRajaDita 12:21, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
  • One suggestion was putting people information like a family tree with bio summary like the ones I've put under Category:People. See Idris Jala Discuss
    • I have the Ulung Palang family tree that I could put up if there is no objections about putting this information in public space. It's currently held online in a non-searchable site. It's not at all complete so it'll be great if more people can edit it.. The other option (which Wikipedia adopts) is for people to update their own profile in their user pages and only maintain bios of notable Kelabits (public figures like our ketua kampong etc), and historical figures in the main Wiki SRajaDita 12:21, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Content

What would you like to see in the encyclopedia? ""Discuss.""

  1. Here are just some of the possibilities....local flora and fauna found in the Kelabit Highlands, our history, Kelabit individuals (including those that have assimilated into the Kelabit culture and society), places, poetry, music, folklore, dictionary, quotes, proverbs, jokes, current events.... SRajaDita 12:51, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Action Plan

How do we proceed from here?

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